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Mike Abram's avatar

Regarding the fact that an 18-year-old can go to war, but should not be able to own a semi automatic weapon that he might otherwise used in war, it’s also worth noting that the 18 year old in the military is subject to intense training and strict discipline. He does not have the freedom to use his gun in self-defense except as part of a regulated authorized and highly directed military operation.

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I am a strong advocate and activist for reducing gun violence since I was 12 and lost a friend to gun violence. I am now 75, so have been engaged in the movement to reduce gun violence for a lifetime. I have also received formal training in mediation, effective debate and argumentation, negotiation, and diplomacy. An important learning from that training is the importance of always trying to begin conversations by establishing a commonly shared objective for the conversation. Do not open the conversation by refuting another’s point of view. You are most likely going to harden that person’s view as they react to defend it. Rather it is better to start from a point both sides can agree on.

It is why when discussing the issue of gun violence i try to start the discussion by framing it in term’s of - “Reducing gun violence would be a good thing for everyone. So let’s see if together we can imagine ways that might reduce gun violence that might be effective. What do you think might be solutions we could try?”

Depending upon the size of the group involved in the conversation and their level of emotional maturity and education, I might try to establish some ground rules such as:

For the first portion of the discussion no one is allowed to crticize a suggested approach by saying why an approach can’t be used or wouldn’t work. First we are trying to get all the suggestions on a list. Regardless of where or from which side the suggestion comes, just get it on the list using the suggestor’s own words.

The second step of the discussion would be to have the group evaluate each suggestion as to if it might reduce the risk of gun violence. This is not trying to rank the suggestions or say by how much it would reduce gun violence. It is only to determine if it MIGHT reduce the risk of gun violence by any amount.

Now we have a list of things that might be tried to reduce gun violence the group has agreed might work if tried. We are now ready to examine each one to determine first how effective it might be and if it is possible, not desirable only possible, to try it.

Each step in this process tries to start from a point of agreement moving towards an agreed objective of seeking to work together to try to find mutually agreed ways that might reduce the risk of gun violence.

Everyone agrees gun violence is a bad thing and less risk of it is better than more risk. Not even the most avid supporters of gun rights and the second amendment wants to see more gun violence that only undermines their position on the importance of preserving their right to purchase and possess a gun. So, lets try to start discussions on the issue from where there should be a point of agreement. Gun violence is bad for everyone and less of it is better than where we are at present or yet even more of it.

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